ban the noob tube

[DevilsRefugee]

it sucks. Who is with me?

[frymaster]

in cod 4 parlance, the noob tube is the grenade launcher attachment you can fit to assault rifles.

If there was a way of, say, making the noob tube only work for people with a rank of less than 10, I'd say keep it

[Humbug]

get rid of it

[DeathByDribbling]

/me played quite a bit of COD 4 a while ago

Upon looking at the COD forums I discovered practically everything was deemed to "suck".  Noob tube's, rockets, P90, martyrdom, juggernaut, 3 nades, blind throwing nades, M16, deep impact, jumping, dolphin diving, there are even servers where you get kicked if you run ...

My eventual conclusion was they were all fine and the people who couldn't deal with them were the ones that "sucked".  Hence if I come across a server with lots of funny rules I tend to avoid it due to it not being worth the grief you get for killing someone the wrong way.

Personally I never got why the tube was such a problem - I never thought it was that powerful and it certainly doesn't kill me much.

The one change I would recommend is significantly lowering the health of the helicopter.  One of COD's questionable design choices was to give lots of extra stuff to those who are winning.  I mean they are winning so are better anyway, why not give them uav, air strikes and helicopters just too make sure there is no comeback  

Anyway the helibot is particularly unfair as it can shoot you though the tiniest gap and will always go for the opposing teams top scoring players first.  This means the only players with any hope of leveling the game by getting a kill streak to get an airstrike, or getting behind enemy lies to capture that key flag keep getting shot.  They can basically spend the game just dodging a continuous stream of helicopters.  This is no fun.

[Humbug]

hmm.. yeah i suppose the tube does have it's place in the game.  tbh we dont get that many people on the server as we certainly aint any good so i dont suppose it matters.

[DevilsRefugee]

the NT is way Op, i often killed by noobs using it whereas i can avoid/attack a heli with some confidence.

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imagine 3/4 guys running around with noobtubes....

the heli can only be dispatched at once...ie cant have multiples...but i do agree, the cod community general whines about anything and everything, my only gripe is with the stupid OP tubes.

[DeathByDribbling]

the NT is way Op, i often killed by noobs using it whereas i can avoid/attack a heli with some confidence.

edit:

imagine 3/4 guys running around with noobtubes....

I disagree - if it was Op everyone would be using it but you hardly see it used at all.  Why? because they just aren't that effective.  Range isn't that great, reload time sucks, you only get 2 tube nades, you have to switch to actually fire your main gun.  Sure in certain situations you can get a 1 shot kill but if you miss you are stuffed due to slow reload time.  I can get a 1 shot kill more easily with a decent gun (e.g. M16 + stopping power) and be able to fire much faster and have a more useful perk 1.

the heli can only be dispatched at once...ie cant have multiples...but i do agree, the cod community general whines about anything and everything, my only gripe is with the stupid OP tubes.

You can only have 1 heli, but the enemy will be queuing them up as they will keep getting 7 kill streaks and the heli sticks around for a couple of minutes, meaning they always have a heli in the air.  If you are top scorer the thing will follow you around like a lost puppy.  While it is possible to avoid it, it's very difficult to do anything productive while doing it.  e.g. capturing a point requires standing in the open which would be instant death.

[stoned_llama]

Least fun times in CoD4 when peeps n00btubing. Idk if hacks involved or what, but I've seen it ruin many games. Vote result speaks for itself.

[frymaster]

it's called the noob tube because once other options are available, pretty much everyone uses them.  and noobs need all the help they can get.  so... I don't see a problem

[DevilsRefugee]

say that when a level 20+ kills you with it